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I can’t emphasize enough the importance of reading
the installation guide carefully before you attempt to use
the Traffic Pro. It certainly would have saved us some time.
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Traffic Pro menus and settings
I have a hard time remembering how to access all the different
menus on the Traffic Pro.
The following list is a result of getting a call from Jim and his side kick Chester wanting to know how to reset the CD changer. The list is for my HK BMW NA Traffic Pro. The HK Traffic Pro has some differences, which I'll add when I get the feedback from Jim. |
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Translation
It all started back in 1997 as one of the largest car radio manufacturers have decided to produce a navigation system which would fit into the DIN slot, the idea was great, but the implementation was difficult. The Becker Trafficpro was difficult to use and the routing was far from perfect. It's well known that you learn from the errors, and already on the next generation devices Becker Trafficpro has eliminated all the errors and bugs. And more : Becker Trafficpro is deemed to be the best example how easy it is to use a full navigation system. Especially the possibilty to be able to listen to a music CD - after the navigation data is saved on the internal memory - during the navigation is one of it's appreciated features. Neither Blaupunkt nor VDO-Dayton can do it. Currently, 80% of the navigation units sold are DIN size and 20% wide-screen. And Becker Trafficpro has the major share among this 20%, which drew the attention of the japanese manufacturers. So, JVC, Pioneer and Sony didn't want to get into a risky business by developing their owns systems, but they decided to buy the already-successful and approved Becker system. Sony and JVC is almost a facelifted Becker unit, where Pioneer is using the Becker Navigation combined with own Audio and Display technology. So, the Pioneer is the best looking one with it's organic- EL-display among the Radio-Nav systems, but also it has superior audio performance thanks to it's strong amplifier and sound adjustment features. However the radio reception doesn't reach the performance of Becker's dual tuner. In order to to secure it's market share, Becker introduced a cheaper version of Becker Trafficpro (one without detachable screen) with the model name DTM for EURO 1300,- Whether Becker, Sony, Pioneer or JVC, all units have excellent navigation perfomance, where the Pioneer unit requires more time for route calculation due to its detailed graphics/mapping compared to the other units. All the devices which are tested offering a great alternative to the wide-screen systems. It's also very common to purchase these units much cheaper then MSRP, especially bundled with CD-Changers. The installation is not a rocket science, can be done in 1-2 hours. --------------------------------- Translation of the test Bedienung - Ease of usage Routenwahl - Route choice Dynamische Navigation - Dynamic Navigation (using data to avoid traffic jams) Optische FŸhrung - Menu usage Akustische FŸhrung - Voice navigation Ausstattung - Options Arbeitstempo - Speed ----------------------------------- Radioempfang- Radio reception Radio-Klang - Radio sound CD-Klang - CD Sound Anmutung - Impression Preis - Price (in Euro)
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Blaupunkt RNS150 - $700 - Impressions?
The
Blaupunkt RNS150 is on sale for $700 (regularly $1000) at
crutchfield.com. Both these prices are cheaper than HK/Becker that I've
found (seems to run about $1500). It looks like Blaupunkt has got the
US maps on 9 different CDs - you get one included, additional map CDs
are $180.00.
Head unit: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WgaEnu...asp?i=023RNS150 Navigation CDs: http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/...asp?s=7&g=84700 Anybody tried this? Any comparisons between Blaupunkt and Becker? Here are my impressions/questions from the ad: They've got a deal on all nine map CDs (US/Canada) for $300 They advertise a trunk-mounted CD changer for $200 (Blaupunkt CDC-A08) that is apparently compatible They've got speed sensitive volume (which I like in the convertible) Does CDs and (maybe? probably?) CD-Rs, but not CD-RW's or MP3 CDs I wonder if a non-splice, non-solder wiring harness is available? I wonder if you can remove the navigation CD after plotting the course and play a music CD at the head unit Looks like a cheaper alternative, but I wonder how it compares. Couldn't find any online reviews. (IMHO, the perfect navigation head unit would have 1. Good navigation/ease of use. Optional voice directions 2. the ability to play a music or MP3 CD after setting course 3. Detachable face/security face 4. Speed sensitive volume 5. Styling and lighting color to reasonably match the Z3's interior (I can deal with amber, I just don't want lots of green or blue and flashy displays...) 6. Affordable ($1000 or less would be nice) Neither the HK/Becker nor the Blaupunkt does MP3s, and the Blaupunkt just squeaks under the "affordable" wire with the full US CD set... Any other possibilities I'm missing? Larry Last edited by purplehays : 01-28-2003 at 11:02 AM. |
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phatbox now compatible with HK traffic pro...
thinking about switching my sony system to the HKTP waiting to hear about cable /software to convert to HKTP-phatbox no need for outboard CD changer with PB
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it was me i would go with the blaupunkt and then you can also add the
new blaupunkt mp3 micro drive system , or the soon to be released 20
gig hard drive system
I would rather have the bmw traffic pro but since there seems to be no software for the u.s. i guess thats a kill joy there and if anyone cares, im talking with a guy at blaupunkt about there new micro drive mp3 system, he is checking to see if the cable they have will plug into the back of the oem headunit where the changer currently plugs into the headunit, he thinks so the phat box seems like the way to go since it offers ssa and what not but if you watch the phatnoise web site there are alot of bugs still in the thing, also if you are going with p-box look into the kenwood keg its about a 1/4 of the phat box and can have the firmware flashed to be the exact same as the phatbox as far as bmw units go here is a link to the ssa feature on bmw's with the keg/phatbox SSA FEATURE Last edited by 01silber : 06-22-2003 at 04:09 PM. |
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01silber: roadsters do not have diversity antennas, all other models (including Z4) do.... my X5 seems to have better reception than the roadster...
also, i currently own 2 phatboxes... one in my X5 using the DSP adapter which is flawless, and uses SSA only, and one in the roadster, with the sony headunit, which uses text only... the HK TP usa version with the phatbox uses BOTH SSA and text or either one to announce the track/playlist/artist/genre info... pretty snappy ..... the BMW HK appears to be less desireable than the HK TP... does the BMW HK have the RCA outputs the HKTP does??? this is important for those of us who have aftermarket amps, etc...
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The Euro BMW Traffic Pro accommodates the diversity antenna. The HK NA one doesn't. |
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There's no diversity antenna on Z3 Coupes either right?
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the plot thickens..... copy of post to other topic
look what's out in the UK.........
look at the page: http://www.ice.sony.co.uk/productde...p?id=3_32_2164# look at the demo: http://www.ice.sony.co.uk/productde...id=3_32_2164#[/ its the GD HK unit cobranded by sony, and not available in the US...... wonder if it has unilink capability??
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guess what--
no unilink capability and requires a special CD changer (obviously the rebranded HK one).... very very very interesting....
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